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 In the [[en:magazines:entostonteixon:no_33:apantisi_ergatikidimokratia|previous]] and [[en:magazines:entostonteixon:no_34:apantisi_ergatikidimokratia|in this]]
 issue of "Within the Walls",
-the magazine hosted in two parts,an article
+the magazine hosted in two parts, an article
 by Ch. Eliades, with the subtitle "a response to the editorial group of Workers' Democracy". The reply concerns [[en:magazines:entostonteixon:no_31:sosiolpatriotis|our article]] that was in a previous issue, which he considered a response to [[en:magazines:entostonteixon:no_30:aliprooptiki|his own article]] in the
 March issue. He even notes that with that article we "entered" the dialogue
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 Because Ch. Eliades does not want to understand this attitude, he wonders with much frustration and even more naivety if we would also describe as social patriots the Turkish revolutionaries who are fighting against "their" bourgeoisie to support the withdrawal of the Turkish army from Cyprus and the right of the Cypriots to live in a state. But... of course not. These are real socialists and internationalists. Social patriots are only all those **Greek Cypriot or Greek** leftists who fight so fervently for the withdrawal of the Turkish army and against partition, matters that are tasks specifically for Turkish and Turkish Cypriot revolutionaries.
-Social patriots also do not want to know that Lenin believed that the duty of supporting the **right** of self-determination of oppressed nationalities lies **specifically with the revolutionaries of the nation that oppressed or oppresses or seeks to oppress** such nationalities, and they do not what to know what this position means. This can be seen from the fury with which Ch. Eliades denounces that we consider that the very "secession-creation of the "TRNC" is politically correct, and even in accordance with the Leninist conception of things".
+Social patriots also do not want to know that Lenin believed that the duty of supporting the **right** of self-determination of oppressed nationalities lies **specifically with the revolutionaries of the nation that oppressed or oppresses or seeks to oppress** such nationalities, and they do not want to know what this position means. This can be seen from the fury with which Ch. Eliades denounces that we consider that the very "secession-creation of the "TRNC" is politically correct, and even in accordance with the Leninist conception of things".
 We are not arguing that the creation of the TRNC is "politically correct" or "politically incorrect", nor that it "had to be done that way". That is not the issue for us. We are only arguing that we, as **Greek Cypriot** revolutionaries, precisely because we are Greek Cypriots and not Turkish Cypriots or Turks, should resist the attempt of **"our"** ruling class to prevent Turkish Cypriots from having their own state. **Only** this. And it is very different from what Ch. Eliades attributes to us, having fallen victim to a not at all original foolishness. Are we going to 'abuse' Lenin again?
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 Notes:
-) Colected Works of Lenin volume 37 pp. 108
+) Collected Works of Lenin volume 37 p. 108
 ) Lenin "Questions of National Policy" p. 15
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 Condition:"Needs Translation":"Needs Turkish Translation"
 Magazines:"Within the Walls (Issue 34)"
-Ομάδες:"Εργατική Δημοκρατία (Ομάδα)"
+Groups:"Workers' Democracy (Group)"
 "Decade:Decade 1980-1989"
 "Year:1988"