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**Charalambos Aristotelous, | **Charalambos Aristotelous, | ||
- | //On December 22, 2022, the Platypus Affiliated Society hosted a panel on AKEL at the House for Cooperation in Nicosia, Cyprus. The speakers were Charalambos Aristotelous (independent candidate in the 2023 presidential elections), Phedias Christodoulides (Platypus and 1917),[1] Athina Karyati (New Internationalist Left),[2] and Marios Thrasyvoulou (historian and author). The moderator was Charis Theodorou. The panel was translated into English by Phedias Christodoulides, | + | //On December 22, 2022, the Platypus Affiliated Society hosted a panel on AKEL at the House for Cooperation in Nicosia, Cyprus. The speakers were Charalambos Aristotelous (independent candidate in the 2023 presidential elections), Phedias Christodoulides ([[en: |
**Introduction** | **Introduction** | ||
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What is the relationship between the Communist Party of Cyprus (CPC) and AKEL? How and why did one party evolve into the other? How did AKEL’s nature change over the years? What were the turning points in its history? What is AKEL’s relationship with the Greek Cypriot Right, both historically and today? How would you assess AKEL’s stance on the Cyprus problem, both historically and today? What is the relevance of AKEL to the tasks and problems facing the Left? How do you see the future of AKEL? | What is the relationship between the Communist Party of Cyprus (CPC) and AKEL? How and why did one party evolve into the other? How did AKEL’s nature change over the years? What were the turning points in its history? What is AKEL’s relationship with the Greek Cypriot Right, both historically and today? How would you assess AKEL’s stance on the Cyprus problem, both historically and today? What is the relevance of AKEL to the tasks and problems facing the Left? How do you see the future of AKEL? | ||
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- | **Marios Thrasyvoulou: | + | **Opening remarks** |
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In Cyprus, the geographical peculiarities (small place, small population), | In Cyprus, the geographical peculiarities (small place, small population), | ||
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A large part of the extra-parliamentary Left claims that we need a strong AKEL against the Right and the far Right. What it avoids mentioning is that we have had a strong AKEL over time, with the Party coming first or second in every election since the founding of the Republic of Cyprus (1960), without this threatening the hegemony of the Right on the island. Over the years we have seen neither a class struggle nor the promotion of the socialist perspective. AKEL went so far as to elect its general secretary as President of the Republic, and its government proved that AKEL has no alternative socio-economic proposal to neoliberalism, | A large part of the extra-parliamentary Left claims that we need a strong AKEL against the Right and the far Right. What it avoids mentioning is that we have had a strong AKEL over time, with the Party coming first or second in every election since the founding of the Republic of Cyprus (1960), without this threatening the hegemony of the Right on the island. Over the years we have seen neither a class struggle nor the promotion of the socialist perspective. AKEL went so far as to elect its general secretary as President of the Republic, and its government proved that AKEL has no alternative socio-economic proposal to neoliberalism, | ||
- | Now I will talk about the negative influence of AKEL on the extra-parliamentary Left, something that we have not yet addressed much. Unfortunately, | + | Now I will talk about the negative influence of AKEL on the extra-parliamentary Left, something that we have not yet addressed much. Unfortunately, |
Another, related legacy of AKEL is the burial of an internationalist approach to capitalist reality. AKEL early on invoked the so-called anti-colonial internationalism that emerged after the end of World War II, but this was in fact nothing more than the coalescence of various nationalisms, | Another, related legacy of AKEL is the burial of an internationalist approach to capitalist reality. AKEL early on invoked the so-called anti-colonial internationalism that emerged after the end of World War II, but this was in fact nothing more than the coalescence of various nationalisms, | ||
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**AK:** I didn’t say that the CPC or AKEL was once good either. The striking thing is that the CPC was the first party in Cyprus, appearing before anything from the Right was created. It appeared among the working people and had radical rhetoric. It brought together GCs and TCs. It stood for independence-autonomy, | **AK:** I didn’t say that the CPC or AKEL was once good either. The striking thing is that the CPC was the first party in Cyprus, appearing before anything from the Right was created. It appeared among the working people and had radical rhetoric. It brought together GCs and TCs. It stood for independence-autonomy, | ||
- | On the other question. Because we belong to the Left which is not a tail of AKEL, and we were also in one of the two efforts for an alternative Left — Drasy-Eylem, | + | On the other question. Because we belong to the Left which is not a tail of AKEL, and we were also in one of the two efforts for an alternative Left — [[en: |
//A common point that all the speakers mentioned is that AKEL, both historically and today, does not have a pro-worker, communist policy. What steps do we need to take today to start seeing a more radical, communist perspective? | //A common point that all the speakers mentioned is that AKEL, both historically and today, does not have a pro-worker, communist policy. What steps do we need to take today to start seeing a more radical, communist perspective? | ||
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As for the question about today, the easy answer is that yes we need a new party and new unions. The problem is that the majority of the Cypriot extra-parliamentary Left does not believe in the possibility of a new party or does not want one, e.g., the anarchists think it is authoritarian. We need to have a discussion about why such a psychological fixation of many with AKEL exists, the difficulty of admitting that it is bourgeois, Right-wing, and that we want something new, and we need to start a discussion about what needs to be done. | As for the question about today, the easy answer is that yes we need a new party and new unions. The problem is that the majority of the Cypriot extra-parliamentary Left does not believe in the possibility of a new party or does not want one, e.g., the anarchists think it is authoritarian. We need to have a discussion about why such a psychological fixation of many with AKEL exists, the difficulty of admitting that it is bourgeois, Right-wing, and that we want something new, and we need to start a discussion about what needs to be done. | ||
- | **AK:** The fragmentation of the Left internationally, | + | **AK:** The fragmentation of the Left internationally, |
**PC:** Why did these efforts fail? | **PC:** Why did these efforts fail? | ||
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I arrive at the proposal we made. When AKEL announced the candidacy of Mavroyiannis, | I arrive at the proposal we made. When AKEL announced the candidacy of Mavroyiannis, | ||
- | What I was asking is this: is there even a small possibility that these problems of the Left are structural? That structurally we cannot have a Left-wing party? Perhaps hierarchical structures always end up creating bureaucratic layers and leading the party to failure. | + | //What I was asking is this: is there even a small possibility that these problems of the Left are structural? That structurally we cannot have a Left-wing party? Perhaps hierarchical structures always end up creating bureaucratic layers and leading the party to failure.// |
//[A separate audience member asks] Charalambos, | //[A separate audience member asks] Charalambos, | ||
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Lastly, ultra-Leftism is the childhood disease of communism, as Lenin masterfully puts it. According to Lenin, we must participate in bourgeois institutions; | Lastly, ultra-Leftism is the childhood disease of communism, as Lenin masterfully puts it. According to Lenin, we must participate in bourgeois institutions; | ||
- | **PC:** As for what is to be done today, I see the candidacy of Charalambos in a positive light, despite any disagreements we may have. We do need to break with AKEL in the first instance, including breaking with AKEL’s satellites on the extra-parliamentary Left such as Workers’ Democracy, | + | **PC:** As for what is to be done today, I see the candidacy of Charalambos in a positive light, despite any disagreements we may have. We do need to break with AKEL in the first instance, including breaking with AKEL’s satellites on the extra-parliamentary Left such as [[en: |
We need to get away from the logic of Left-wing unity and return to Marxist unity. We don’t need to invite the whole extra-parliamentary Left to join a new project, because a large part of it is made up of unrepentant AKELists who are not really on the Left. We need to focus on the people who are against AKEL and really want to create new unions, maybe even a new party. | We need to get away from the logic of Left-wing unity and return to Marxist unity. We don’t need to invite the whole extra-parliamentary Left to join a new project, because a large part of it is made up of unrepentant AKELists who are not really on the Left. We need to focus on the people who are against AKEL and really want to create new unions, maybe even a new party. | ||
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**AK:** In conclusion, there is a method: Marxism. We can study it; we can see how it can be applied to our case. There are international movements with which we need to get in touch and cooperate. Because we believe that there should be no dogmas, we have to look at history and theory with a critical eye, discuss the conditions of today, and come up with positions. It takes work. Even though it is up to the organizers to decide its format, something could come out of this event: maybe soon we could have a follow-up meeting to discuss the next steps for the Left to take. | **AK:** In conclusion, there is a method: Marxism. We can study it; we can see how it can be applied to our case. There are international movements with which we need to get in touch and cooperate. Because we believe that there should be no dogmas, we have to look at history and theory with a critical eye, discuss the conditions of today, and come up with positions. It takes work. Even though it is up to the organizers to decide its format, something could come out of this event: maybe soon we could have a follow-up meeting to discuss the next steps for the Left to take. | ||
- | **PC:** I would like to respond to the last point that Athina and audience members said — that this event should have been organized so that a Left front could begin to be created, etc. We didn’t collect any emails, but that doesn’t mean that this event happened for nothing. The event was filmed, recorded, and will go down in history. It will go into the Cypriot movement archive, and may even be published in the //Platypus Review.// It will not be lost. | + | **PC:** I would like to respond to the last point that Athina and audience members said — that this event should have been organized so that a Left front could begin to be created, etc. We didn’t collect any emails, but that doesn’t mean that this event happened for nothing. The event was filmed, recorded, and will go down in history. It will go into the [[en: |
The purpose of Platypus as a group is to combat ideological obstacles that prevent the re-creation and re-foundation of a Marxist revolutionary Left. That is why we are having these discussions. We are not trying to become that Left ourselves, which is why some of us who feel the need to build that Left formed the 1917 group. As the 1917 group we would like to create a communist party in Cyprus. Now, I am not sure that the conditions are ready. It was said before that now is not the time to discuss the ideological differences of the past but to try to make something new. Yes, but why did ERAS fail? Why did Drasy-Eylem fail? Perhaps because, instead of discussing history and the mistakes made, we were again in a hurry to promote Left unity, where “Left unity” ultimately means the logics of popular fronts, etc. Why should we continue this vicious circle? That is why we need to take a step back and look at history again and learn, because the problem today in Cyprus and in the Left worldwide is that it suffers from historical amnesia; it does not learn from the mistakes of the past, and repeats the same mistakes even more unconsciously and therefore in a worse way. I agree with Marios that we should not forget the Soviet Union and we should discuss it. We used to have such events in the past. | The purpose of Platypus as a group is to combat ideological obstacles that prevent the re-creation and re-foundation of a Marxist revolutionary Left. That is why we are having these discussions. We are not trying to become that Left ourselves, which is why some of us who feel the need to build that Left formed the 1917 group. As the 1917 group we would like to create a communist party in Cyprus. Now, I am not sure that the conditions are ready. It was said before that now is not the time to discuss the ideological differences of the past but to try to make something new. Yes, but why did ERAS fail? Why did Drasy-Eylem fail? Perhaps because, instead of discussing history and the mistakes made, we were again in a hurry to promote Left unity, where “Left unity” ultimately means the logics of popular fronts, etc. Why should we continue this vicious circle? That is why we need to take a step back and look at history again and learn, because the problem today in Cyprus and in the Left worldwide is that it suffers from historical amnesia; it does not learn from the mistakes of the past, and repeats the same mistakes even more unconsciously and therefore in a worse way. I agree with Marios that we should not forget the Soviet Union and we should discuss it. We used to have such events in the past. | ||
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Calling all the groups of the extra-parliamentary Left once again won’t lead anywhere, because many of them are not willing to break with AKEL and with the system. |**P** | Calling all the groups of the extra-parliamentary Left once again won’t lead anywhere, because many of them are not willing to break with AKEL and with the system. |**P** | ||
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+ | [1] 1917 is a newly formed political organization that aims to build a Marxist Left in Cyprus. | ||
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+ | [2] Nea Diethnistike Aristera (NEDA), founded in the 2000s; it disaffiliated itself from the International Socialist Alternative on June 24, 2021, which was a split from the Committee for a Workers’ International that was founded in 1974. | ||
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+ | [3] Video of the panel is available online at < | ||
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+ | [4] Anorthotikó Kómma Ergazómenou Laoú, founded in 1926 as the Communist Party of Cyprus, before being made illegal in 1931. Leading members of the CPC, along with others, founded AKEL in 1941. | ||
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+ | [5] Founded in 1941, The PEO is an umbrella organization for trade unions in Cyprus. | ||
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+ | [6] [Greek] Union. Enosis is the movement of Greek communities outside of Greece for the incorporation of their regions into the Greek state. We will use “Union” here. Reference to the Soviet Union will always be made explicit as “Soviet Union” or “USSR.” | ||
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+ | [7] Ethniki Organosis Kyprion Agoniston (National Organization of Cypriot Fighters), operating in 1955–59. | ||
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+ | [8] < | ||
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+ | [9] The Battle of Tillyria, also known as the Battle of Kokkina or the Erenköy Resistance, was a conflict on August 6, 1964 between the Cypriot National Guard and Turkish Cypriot armed groups. | ||
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+ | [10] Dimokratikó Kómma, founded in 1976. | ||
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+ | [11] Founded in 1969 as the United Democratic Centre Union (Eniaia demokratiki enosi kentrou). | ||
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+ | [12] See Leszek Kołakowski, | ||
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+ | [13] V. I. Lenin, “Trade-Unionist Politics and Social-Democratic Politics, | ||
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+ | [14] Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, “Proletarians and Communists, | ||
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+ | [15] Eniéa Dimokratikí Aristerá (United Democratic Left), founded in 1951 and dissolved in 1991. | ||
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+ | [16] Ethniko Laiko Metopo (National People’s Front), founded in 2008. | ||
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+ | [17] Kommounistikó Kómma Eládas, founded in 1918 as the Socialist Labour Party of Greece and given its current name in November 1924. | ||
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+ | [18] The Information Bureau of the Communist and Workers’ Parties (Informatsionnoye byuro kommunistischeskikh i rabochikh partiy), known as Cominform, was a body of Marxist-Leninist communist parties, including that of the Soviet Union, founded by Joseph Stalin in 1947. While not intended as a replacement of the Third or Communist International (Comintern), | ||
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+ | [19] The 1931 Cyprus Revolt, or October Events — Οκτωβριανά (Oktovriana) — was a revolt against British colonial rule that took place in Cyprus — then a British crown colony — between October 21 and early November 1931. The revolt was spearheaded by Greek Cypriots who advocated the Union of the island with Greece. The defeat of the rebels led to a period of autocratic British rule known as “Palmerocracy, | ||
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+ | [20] Rosa Luxemburg, “Introduction, | ||
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+ | [21] A political party formed in 2014. Its name is a combination of the Greek (drasy) and Turkish (eylem) words for “action.” | ||
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+ | [22] “There is no alternative.” | ||
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+ | [23] Επιτροπή για μια Ριζοσπαστική Αριστερή Συσπείρωση (Committee for a Radical Left Rally), founded in 2011. | ||
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+ | [24] Εργατική Δημοκρατία. | ||
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+ | [25] Αριστερή Πτέρυγα. | ||
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+ | [26] The 1974 coup d’etat by the Greek military junta to take control of Cyprus. | ||
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+ | [27] The main far-Right nationalist current in Cyprus, taking its place from Grivas. | ||
+ | [28] The European Border and Coast Guard Agency. | ||
+ | [29] The Permanent Structured Cooperation, | ||
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