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 THE CYPRUS PROBLEM IS WILL TAKE YEARS CHILDREN… AND TO ESCAPE FROM TODAY’S DILEMMA BETWEEN A WAR OR A “SOLUTION” WHICH WILL CREATE THE SAME SHIT IN FIVE-TEN YEARS, IT IS NECESSARY TO ARTICULATE AN ALTERNATIVE DISCOURSE WHICH, THROUGH ITS ANTI-AUTHORITARIAN PRACTICE, WILL PUT THE PROBLEM IN A NEW FRAMEWORK.
-  * An intensification of social conflicts, of questioning, of non-inclusion to the “national unity” promoted by the state and the nationalists; and since we are (at least geographically) a bridge between Europe and the Middle East, but also culturally between Greece and Turkey, a search for the commonalities of this geographical-cultural space, within its anti-authoritarian roots and practices. What is needed is again an interpretation or a history, the type which the Greco-Christians are trying to erase with the dogma “We are Greeks, period”. This is not Crete, this is where Christians and Muslims (before they were made to wear the hats of “national identity”) had joint uprisings against the church and the Muftis, there werre people which resisted nationalism since the '20s… There were class conflicts, with extensions towards anti-colonial struggles… And now, perhaps, Greeks, Turks and Cypriot rockers, feminists, homosexuals, etc. may find much more in common among themselves in their Eastern mentality, or in their postmodern culture, than with the "proper, law abiding family men” who spit on them on the street every day.
+  * An intensification of social conflicts, of questioning, of non-inclusion to the “national unity” promoted by the state and the nationalists; and since we are (at least geographically) a bridge between Europe and the Middle East, but also culturally between Greece and Turkey, a search for the commonalities of this geographical-cultural space, within its anti-authoritarian roots and practices. What is needed is again an interpretation or a history, the type which the Greco-Christians are trying to erase with the dogma “We are Greeks, period”. This is not Crete, this is where Christians and Muslims (before they were made to wear the hats of “national identity”) had joint uprisings against the church and the Muftis, there were people which resisted nationalism since the '20s… There were class conflicts, with extensions towards anti-colonial struggles… And now, perhaps, Greeks, Turks and Cypriot rockers, feminists, homosexuals, etc. may find much more in common among themselves in their Eastern mentality, or in their postmodern culture, than with the "proper, law abiding family men” who spit on them on the street every day.
-  * A struggle for AUTONOMY/SELF-MANAGMENT against states, based on the right (the human right, not the national) to free settlement and free movement wherever anyone wants, without green lines, “opposing military watchposts” etc. But at the same time, the historical right of political minorities to have an equal say in matters concerning their existence must also be recognised. Because anyone who talks only about the massacres of '74 and forgets what the Turkish Cypriots went through in '63 and '67 either turns a blind eye, or is a conscious liar.
+  * A struggle for AUTONOMY/SELF-MANAGEMENT against states, based on the right (the human right, not the national) to free settlement and free movement wherever anyone wants, without green lines, “opposing military watch-posts” etc. But at the same time, the historical right of political minorities to have an equal say in matters concerning their existence must also be recognised. Because anyone who talks only about the massacres of '74 and forgets what the Turkish Cypriots went through in '63 and '67 either turns a blind eye, or is a conscious liar.
-  * Δεν υπάρχη ένας άμεσος κίνδυνος πολέμου όπως θέλουν να πιστεούν οι επαγγελματίες κινδυνολόγοι. Αλλά επειδή η εθνικιστική υστερία πάη και έρχεται στις γειτονιές μας είναι αναγκαίο να φτιαχτεί μια συννενόηση για κοινούς αγώνες και αντιστάσεις από άτομα και ομάδες στη Ελλάδα τη Κύπρο και τη Τουρκία που το κεντρικό τους πρόβλημα δεν είναι πως θα κερδίση το κράτος τους ένα πόλεμο, ΑΛΛΑ πως θα σταματήση η προοπτική μιας σύγκρουσης. Γιατί οι μόνοι κερδισμένοι από ένα πόλεμο είναι οι παραγωγοί όπλων, οι εθνικιστές μέσα απ' το "αίμα των εχθρών" και τα κράτη που επιβεβαιώνουν τη ανάγκη ύπαρξης τους... και αφτά είναι ιστορία, όχι δόγματα.
+  * A struggle against nationalism and the prospect of war. There is no immediate threat of war, despite what professional scaremongers want to believe. But since nationalist hysteria is ever present in our neighbourhoods, it is necessary to form a common understanding for joint struggles and resistances by individuals and groups located in Greece, Cyprus, and Turkey, whose key concern is not how their state will win a war, BUT how to stop the prospect of a conflict. Because the only winners of a war are the arms manufacturers, the nationalists through the “blood of the enemies” and the states that confirm the need for their existence… and these statements are history, not dogmas.
-A struggle against nationalism and the prospect of war. There is no immediate threat of war as professional risk experts would like to believe. But because the nationalist hysteria comes and goes in our neighbourhoods, it is necessary to make an arrangement for joint struggles and resistance by individuals and groups in Greece, Cyprus, and Turkey whose main problem is not how their state will win a war, BUT how to stop the prospect of a conflict. Because the only winners of a war are the arms producers, the nationalists through the “blood of the enemies” and the states that confirm the need for their existence; and these are history, not dogmas.
-ΜΕΣΑ απ' τη σημερινή απάθεια η θα βγη ένας εθνικισμός πολύ πιο φριχτός από το παρελθόν (που θα το επαναλάβη σ'όλες του τις κωμικοτραγικές διαστάσεις) ή ΜΙΑ ΥΠΕΡΒΑΣΗ/ΞΕΠΕΡΑΣΜΑ του παρελθόντος και του παρόντος.... ΤΟ ΤΕΛΙΚΟ ΒΑΡΥΣΤΟΜΑΧΙΑΣΜΑ ΔΙΚΟ ΣΑΣ ΘΑ 'ΝΑΙ... ΟΠΟΤΕ ΠΡΟΣΕΧΤΕ ΑΠΟ ΤΩΡΑ ΠΟΣΟ ΑΛΑΤΙ ΒΑΖΕΤΕ.
-[[el:groups:anafentos|Αναρχική Ομάδα "Ανάφεντος"]]
+THROUGH the present apathy a much more horrifying nationalism from that of the past (which will repeat itself in all its tragic-comic dimensions) will emerge, or a TRANSCENDENCE/OVERCOMING of the past and the present… THE FINAL INDIGESTION WILL BE YOURS… SO BEWARE FROM NOW HOW MUCH SALT YOU PUT.
+[[en:groups:anafentos|Anarchist group "Anafentos"]]
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-**Ο ΚΑΒΑΖΟΓΛΟΥ ΚΑΙ Ο ΜΙΣΙΑΟΥΛΗΣ ΔΟΛΟΦΟΝΗΜΕΝΟΙ ΑΠΟ ΤΗΝ Τ.Μ.Τ. ... ΓΙΩΡΚΑΤΖΗ ΣΕ ΠΡΟΛΑΒΑΝ.**
+**KAVAZOGLOU MISIAOULIS MURDERED BY T.M.T.… GEORGATZIS, THEY WERE AHEAD OF YOU.**
-**"ΔΕΝ ΝΟΙΑΖΟΜΑΙ ΑΝ ΤΗ ΓΗ ΑΥΤΗ ΤΗΝ ΖΟΥΝ ΤΟΥΡΚΟΙ ΓΙΑ ΕΛΛΗΝΕΣ. ΕΚΕΙΝΟ ΠΟΥ ΕΧΕΙ ΑΞΙΑ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΝΑ ΤΗΝ ΖΟΥΝ ΑΥΤΟΙ ΠΟΥ ΤΗΝ ΠΟΤΙΖΟΥΝ ΜΕ ΤΟΝ ΙΔΡΩΤΑ ΤΟΥΣ ΚΑΙ ΝΑ ΠΕΡΠΑΤΟΥΝ ΠΑΝΩ ΤΗΣ ΕΛΕΥΘΕΡΟΙ..." ΚΥΡΙΑΚΟΣ ΜΑΤΣΗΣ**
+**"I DO NOT CARE IF ON THIS EARTH LIVE TURKS OR GREEKS. WHAT HAS VALUE IS THAT THOSE WHO LIVE ON IT WATER IT WITH THEIR SWEAT AND WALK ON IT FREE…" KYRIAKOS MATSIS**
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 {{tag>
-Κατάσταση:"Χρειάζεται Μετάφραση":"Χρειάζεται Αγγλική Μετάφραση" Κατάσταση:"Χρειάζεται Μετάφραση":"Χρειάζεται Τούρκικη Μετάφραση"
+Condition:"Needs Translation":"Needs Turkish Translation"
-"Δεκαετία":"Δεκαετία 1980-1989" Χρονιά:1987
+"Decade":"Decade 1980-1989" Year:1987
-Θέμα:"Κυπριακό Πρόβλημα" "Θέμα":"Εθνικισμός/Ακροδεξιά"
+Subject:"Cyprus Problem" "Subject":"Nationalism/Far-right"
-"Περιοδικά":"Τραίνο στην πόλη (Περιοδικό)":"Τραίνο στην πόλη - Τεύχος 2+3"
+"Magazines":"Train in the City (Magazine)":"Train in the City - Issue 2+3"
-Ομάδες:"Ανάφεντος (Ομάδα)"
+Groups:"Anafentos (Group)"
-Τοποθεσίες:Λεμεσός}}
+Subject: "Material of Anafentos group found in Traino magazine"
+Areas:Limassol}}